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REMINGTON NAVY ROLLING BLOCK RIFLE MODEL 1867

 

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REMINGTON ROLLING BLOCK RIFLE MODEL 1867

Remington Rolling Block Rifle Model 1867
U.S. Navy Model 5-E083?
 
DIMENSIONS: Length overall  39 3/4"    Length of Barrel  23 1/4"       Bore 30 Cal.   Weight  7 lbs. 4 oz.

Presented is a Remington Rolling Block rifle/carbine that looks like the Navy version and conforms with its principal dimensions, but is lacking the special Navy inspection markings and sling swivels. It is also of a smaller caliber than the 50-45 center fire specified. But even with these discrepancies, there is a prominent number 314 that is stamped by a single die on the reverse stock that could easily be a rack number, and what appears to be 48 on the butt plate that might signify "Inspected".  Flayderman's, "Guide to Antique American Firearms" says that "50 percent of the production of this model were later altered to other caliber carbines and rifles".

Close-up of left side of rifle
Folding ladder type sight

 

TANG MARKINGS: On three lines. They are difficult to read, but there:

REMINGTON'S, ILION, N.Y. U.S.A.
MAY 3D, NOV 15TH 1864, APRIL 17TH 1866
AUG 27TH 1867, NOV 7TH, 1871?

Other than those mentioned on the tang and butt plate, there are no other markings. 
 
Remington markings on tang image
Remington's markings on the tang are well worn, but readable

DETAILED DESCRIPTION:
 
This is a well worn carbine that has the features of a Navy Model 1867, or has been altered but NOT forged to resemble a Navy or Naval Cadet rifle. The overall length is correct. The Remington's markings on the tang are original, and the large number 314 on the stock was made by a single die looks authentic. It might be a "Rack" number. There also is a poorly stamped number 48 on the heavy duty butt plate which was made in two impressions.
 
DISCREPANCIES: There are no other markings, such as a serial number, navy anchor stamp or inspector's initials. There are no slings and the caliber is small for an early rifle which suggests that it may have been re-barreled. It also can be argued that the stock was cut down, but that doesn't seem to make sense because there is a 3" x 1/4" grove in the bottom front which looks to be original. The 30 caliber is wrong for this rifle.
 
CONDITION: All the bluing is long gone. In its place are variations in color from silver to black with much scattered spotting, but the entire barrel is smooth to the touch.There are areas of rust, such as on the rear sight and on the the rolling block and trigger, and deeper pitting on side plates. The cross bar on the ladder rear sight is frozen in place. The bore has not been cleaned in years and has what seems to be a light coating of rust. The breech block and hammer work correctly, but should be checked by a gunsmith.
 
The wood stock has darkened with age and use and the forearm is slightly loose. There is a 3 inch groove at the forend of it, and one small split on the left front. The rest of the stock has some small dings, dents, scratches and handling marks, but nothing exceptional.
Right side of action image
left side of action image
Showing both sides of the Remington Action
 

 

Chambered for 30 Cal. image
Chambered for 30 Caliber and needs cleaning
 
 
Showing front sight
Showing single rifle band
   Front sight and single band with metal spring lock in front
 
large 314 might be a rack number image
half inch 314 might be a "Rack" number
 
Close-up of left side of rifle
 Closer view of the working parts
 

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