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REMINGTON ROLLING BLOCK RIFLE MODEL 1867
U.S.
Navy Model 5-E083?
Navy Model 5-E083?
DIMENSIONS: Length
overall 39 3/4″
Length
of Barrel 23
1/4″ Bore 30
Cal. Weight 7 lbs. 4
oz.
Presented is a
Remington Rolling Block rifle/carbine that looks like the Navy version
and conforms with its principal dimensions, but is lacking the
special Navy inspection markings and sling swivels. It is also
of a smaller caliber than the 50-45 center fire
specified. But even with these discrepancies, there is
a prominent number 314 that is stamped by a single die on the
reverse stock that could easily be a rack number, and what appears
to be 48 on the butt plate that might signify “Inspected”.
Flayderman’s, “Guide to Antique American Firearms” says that “50 percent
of the production of this model were later altered to other caliber
carbines and rifles”.
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Folding ladder type |
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TANG MARKINGS: On three lines.
They are difficult to read, but there:
REMINGTON’S, ILION, N.Y.
U.S.A.
MAY 3D, NOV 15TH 1864,
APRIL 17TH 1866
AUG 27TH 1867, NOV 7TH, 1871?
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Other than those mentioned on the
tang and butt plate, there are no other markings.
tang and butt plate, there are no other markings.
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Remington’s markings on the tang are well worn, but readable |
DETAILED
DESCRIPTION:
DESCRIPTION:
This is a well worn carbine that
has the features of a Navy Model 1867, or has been altered but
NOT forged to resemble a Navy or Naval Cadet rifle. The overall length
is correct. The Remington’s markings on the tang are original, and the
large number 314 on the stock was made by a single die looks authentic.
It might be a “Rack” number. There also is a poorly stamped number 48 on
the heavy duty butt plate which was made in two impressions.
has the features of a Navy Model 1867, or has been altered but
NOT forged to resemble a Navy or Naval Cadet rifle. The overall length
is correct. The Remington’s markings on the tang are original, and the
large number 314 on the stock was made by a single die looks authentic.
It might be a “Rack” number. There also is a poorly stamped number 48 on
the heavy duty butt plate which was made in two impressions.
DISCREPANCIES: There are
no other markings, such as a serial number, navy anchor stamp
or inspector’s initials. There are no slings and the caliber
is small for an early rifle which suggests that it may have been
re-barreled. It also can be argued that the stock was cut down, but that
doesn’t seem to make sense because there is a 3″ x 1/4″ grove
in the bottom front which looks to be original. The 30 caliber is wrong
for this rifle.
no other markings, such as a serial number, navy anchor stamp
or inspector’s initials. There are no slings and the caliber
is small for an early rifle which suggests that it may have been
re-barreled. It also can be argued that the stock was cut down, but that
doesn’t seem to make sense because there is a 3″ x 1/4″ grove
in the bottom front which looks to be original. The 30 caliber is wrong
for this rifle.
CONDITION: All the
bluing is long gone. In its place are variations in color from silver to
black with much scattered spotting, but the entire barrel is smooth to
the touch.There are areas of rust, such as on the rear sight and on
the the rolling block and trigger, and deeper pitting on side
plates. The cross bar on the ladder rear sight is frozen in place. The
bore has not been cleaned in years and has what seems to be a light
coating of rust. The breech block and hammer work correctly, but should
be checked by a gunsmith.
bluing is long gone. In its place are variations in color from silver to
black with much scattered spotting, but the entire barrel is smooth to
the touch.There are areas of rust, such as on the rear sight and on
the the rolling block and trigger, and deeper pitting on side
plates. The cross bar on the ladder rear sight is frozen in place. The
bore has not been cleaned in years and has what seems to be a light
coating of rust. The breech block and hammer work correctly, but should
be checked by a gunsmith.
The wood stock has darkened with
age
and use and the forearm is slightly loose. There is a 3 inch groove
at the forend of it, and one small split on the left front. The rest of
the stock has some small dings, dents, scratches and handling marks, but
nothing exceptional.
age
and use and the forearm is slightly loose. There is a 3 inch groove
at the forend of it, and one small split on the left front. The rest of
the stock has some small dings, dents, scratches and handling marks, but
nothing exceptional.
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Showing both sides of the Remington
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Chambered for 30 Caliber and needs cleaning |
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half inch 314 might be a “Rack” number |
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Closer view of the working |
